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<i>You're watching "Pulisic"</i>

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<i>presented by Michelob Ultra.</i>

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<i>Pulisic!</i>

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US Soccer presents
the United States vs Brazil.

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I think when
Christian was really young,

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he excelled
in like all the sports.

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I mean, even five and six,

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he was a really
good soccer player

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but, um, did I think
he was gonna be professional?

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I really tried to keep
my head on my shoulders.

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Even though he was
a good athlete

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and he did things
really advanced,

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I just was like, you know,
it's such a small number,

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But I never thought
at a young age,

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"Oh, he's definitely
going to be a pro."

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I just--
I knew in the back of my head

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that he was a really good
athlete, but,

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you know, it's just--
it's not realistic.

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For me, the moment that
I look back on the most

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was the Nike Friendlies
Tournament.

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We beat Brazil and I won
the MVP of this tournament

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with the US Youth National Team.

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I saw Christian way back

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when he played for the U-17s
in a tournament in Florida.

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<i>Pulisic goes around the defender,</i>

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<i>arm is being pulled,
he still has it.</i>

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And yeah, it was a standout.

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<i>He's on side, left foot,</i>

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<i>he'll pull it back,
shot, goal!</i>

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<i>Gallardo feeds it to Pulisic.</i>

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Christian was always younger.

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I think he was a year younger
than that group.

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He was the smallest.

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If you look back at video,
you could see how tiny he was.

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<i>And the United
States now has a 3-1 lead.</i>

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But all his hard work

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of wanting to be that
on the national team

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and wanting to be
the best player

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kind of all came together
at that tournament.

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You could see that there's
a talent coming through

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that is special,
that is different,

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that is already on the field

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against teams
like England and Brazil.

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He's already
a difference maker.

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So I decided to follow him
a little bit

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from that moment on.

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<i>The United States</i>

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<i>is your Nike International
Friendlies champions of 2013.</i>

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It's just amazing
to be here right now.

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Our team's been working so hard.

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Everyone, every kid.

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And today it all showed
on the pitch

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and we just outplayed them.

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And I think we were
the better squad.

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And we got the W and won.

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They upset Brazil
in the final.

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He was named
Player of the Tournament.

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And that tournament
meant a lot to him.

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And talking to him
after that game,

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I mean,
there was no stopping him

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on the professional path.

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You know, some of the best
players in the world,

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at that age group were playing.

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I think that was the moment
where I thought,

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"I want to be a pro for sure."

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I know that if I--
if I do the right things,

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that I can do it.

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It's funny, I have
a tattoo dated on my arm.

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2013.

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Yeah.
Kids, don't get tattoos.

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I was living in Barcelona
and my company was based there

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and my American talent scouts
called us up and said,

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"There's this representative
team of American players

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"that are currently
in Barcelona

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"playing some matches
against some clubs

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"and they're gonna be playing

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"against FC Barcelona
tomorrow night.

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"You need to go and watch
this kid play.

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He's good."

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So I said to one of my staff,

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"Will you go watch the game

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and tell me
what you think tomorrow?"

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And he comes back into
the office the next day

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and I said,
"How did he play?"

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"Best player on the field."

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I said, "On the field?"

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They played Barcelona.

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Full strength team
of that age group.

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Best player on the field.

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Interesting.

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I remember
having coffee with Mark

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and I said to Mark,
"Mark, I love Barcelona.

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"I'm based here.

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"Wow, I would love
nothing better

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"than to see your son play
first team of FC Barcelona,

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but my advice is probably
to look elsewhere."

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"Yeah, but you know,
we'd love to go to England."

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"Yeah, but to be honest,

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no work permit,
he's under 16, etc., etc."

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"It's gonna be difficult.

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Let me see who's interested."

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Christian ended up
going to Arsenal.

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He was there for a week,
doing very well,

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but all I heard was, "Yeah,
but he's got no passport."

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There's actually
no point in him training.

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It was frustrating,

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but I think
it just confirmed to him

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the abilities he possessed

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and that he could take
this now to another level.

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So he just continued
to pursue

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and, sure enough,
Dortmund came calling.

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To go to a foreign country,
it's difficult.

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You're out of your comfort zone,
no doubt.

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You're forced to speak
in a different language,

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you're forced to figure out
ways to be successful

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and you're forced to grow.

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Because soccer
isn't innately American

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at this point in time,

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if you wanna go pro,

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if you want to play for Milan,

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you can't go to college,

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you can't play in the NCAA.

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You gotta do like Christian did.

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Go to Europe.

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If you see potential,
go to Europe.

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When I look at
Christian Pulisic's situation,

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it was the perfect
moment for him

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to go and grow as a person,

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off the pitch, on the pitch,

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to get the necessary training

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that was needed for
his ability at the time.

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You know, even
when I was only 13 or 14,

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I spoke with my dad
and he asked me

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what it really is
that I wanted to do.

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And I always said
I wanted to play

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at the highest level in Europe.

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That's what I want to do,

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I want to become
a professional there.

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But if I'm being honest,
when I was 13, 14,

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and even still 15,
I was thinking, I don't--

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I don't think there's any way
I could leave home right now.

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I don't know
if I was ready for it

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'cause that year
went so quickly.

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And then we had to make
decisions like, is this right?

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Should he go?
Should he stay?

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And Mark and I,
you know, we said,

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you know, he can't go alone.
He's too young.

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Just didn't think it was
the right thing to do.

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And for us as a family,

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you know, our daughter
was in high school.

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Like, you don't pull someone
out of high school

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and say, let's go again.

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It was time for her
to have her life as well.

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So the best decision,
decision for us was

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for me to stay back
and let her finish her year.

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And Mark was going to Dortmund.

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So that's when it got real.

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And it just got real fast.

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You okay?

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Leaving my family,
leaving my friends.

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I just-- It seemed--

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It seemed so scary to me,

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and it didn't become
any easier.

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I was terrified.
I was terrified to leave home.

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I was scared, I didn't know
if I was good enough.

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I didn't know if I had
a chance of making it pro.

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I was scared that
I would go do all this

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and ruin my chances
of maybe going to college

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or doing normal student
things and, you know,

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shutting down
a lot of options in my life.

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And I remember the decision
being incredibly hard.

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Was it easy? No.

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Was it terrible at times? Yes.

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Were we sad? Were we crying?

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Of course.

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I mean, I'll tell you,
that tape got thin,

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that was holding us together,
but it-- it did.

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Even though he was
very young at the time,

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and even though those
goodbyes were difficult,

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he had a vision and he knew
what he wanted to do.

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But not everything went well.

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I remember the first week

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coming back from trainings

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and just telling my dad,

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"These kids don't like me,
not one bit."

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And it was the first time
I experienced that,

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because back in the US
with my team,

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I was the best player
and everyone loves me

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and have a great time
at training.

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And it's not guys making money
at that age already.

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And when you go into
an environment like that, it's--

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I don't want this guy
to take my spot.

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I was like, these kids
won't pass me the ball

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in training sessions.

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They don't want
to see me succeed.

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That's how it really felt.

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I don't know if I could've
done it to be honest, I don't.

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In order to play for
the youth teams there,

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he needed to be in school.

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And the nearest school where
all the academy players went

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was just a German school.

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Schooling in Germany
is not so easy

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because the language is,
yeah, it's really difficult.

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But there no possibility
to go to school in Germany

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without learning the language.

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And just because you are
very successful in sports,

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you still have to be treated
as a normal student here.

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I hated every second of it,
if I'm being honest.

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I had no clue
what classes I was in.

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I was so confused.

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I had to be
at the training ground

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to do an hour and a half
of German lesson,

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train with the team
until 7:38 p.m.

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and then I would go home,
have a quick dinner,

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go to sleep 'cause
I had to be up at 7 or 8

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to go to school the next day
and it felt like,

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"What am I doing this for?"

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"Am I even gonna
be able to play

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and have a chance to become
a professional here?"

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So he wants to do
all the things,

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the normal program

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and add on
to learn the language.

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That, for a young guy,

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is a lot of stuff, I think.

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Um, it was really impressive.

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To make that move
abroad into a foreign country,

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you haven't got that
infrastructure behind you

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with family and friends,

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different messages
you're getting from coaches,

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new teammates as well.

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So, to make that move
at such a young age,

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I mean, that takes some doing.

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That's not just
about your ability,

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that's about your mentality.

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Christian going
into first gear,

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does he shit his pants
or is it a smooth gear change?

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No matter
what kind of move you make,

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it's always a big change.

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- Nice.
- That's not bad.

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But now I'm sacrificing
my high school years

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of growing up in the States

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with the friends
that I knew my whole life.

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Christian,
navigating a roundabout.

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Yeah, it's too easy.

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Trying to learn
another language,

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not really understanding
what's going on in training,

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trying to adapt
and improve yourself.

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Yeah, into third gear,
good transition.

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There were some tough nights.

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I mean, he moved to
his first place in Dortmund

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00:10:23,482 --> 00:10:24,724
where we lived together

252
00:10:24,758 --> 00:10:27,034
and we went and got
a Nerf basketball hoop.

253
00:10:27,068 --> 00:10:29,689
And every night
he'd come back from training

254
00:10:29,724 --> 00:10:32,724
and every night we would play
like a HORSE game

255
00:10:32,758 --> 00:10:35,000
on this little basketball
Nerf hoop.

256
00:10:35,034 --> 00:10:37,206
So we had many long
talks at night,

257
00:10:37,241 --> 00:10:40,034
just kind of, you know, seeing
where he was, what he wanted.

258
00:10:40,068 --> 00:10:43,482
And I said,
"Look, if it doesn't work,

259
00:10:43,517 --> 00:10:46,931
you're not enjoying it,
we go home."

260
00:10:48,206 --> 00:10:50,448
That was a...
interesting thing to hear.

261
00:10:50,482 --> 00:10:53,551
And I was, you know, he knew
what that would do to me.

262
00:10:53,586 --> 00:10:56,517
He said, "Go ahead, quit,
let's go home." You know?

263
00:10:56,551 --> 00:10:58,068
"You don't wanna be
a professional? No problem."

264
00:10:58,103 --> 00:11:02,344
And I, you know,
that didn't sit right with me.

265
00:11:02,379 --> 00:11:04,793
The last thing Christian
wants to do is go home

266
00:11:04,827 --> 00:11:07,379
and say,
"Hey, it didn't work out."

267
00:11:07,413 --> 00:11:09,551
It's just not his DNA.

268
00:11:09,586 --> 00:11:11,724
He knew I could do it
and I wanted to do it,

269
00:11:11,758 --> 00:11:14,068
and I wasn't gonna let
anything stop me.

270
00:11:14,103 --> 00:11:18,103
The advantage of Dortmund
is they will give young players

271
00:11:18,137 --> 00:11:20,241
an opportunity at a young age.

272
00:11:20,275 --> 00:11:21,689
And they're a big club.

273
00:11:21,724 --> 00:11:24,862
You learn about pressure
at a young age

274
00:11:24,896 --> 00:11:28,724
in a town that only
has a football team.

275
00:11:28,758 --> 00:11:31,551
It's the greatest education
you can have.

276
00:11:33,068 --> 00:11:35,724
Dortmund
is an amazing football city.

277
00:11:35,758 --> 00:11:37,965
Everybody grows up with it
in Borussia Dortmund.

278
00:11:38,965 --> 00:11:41,034
I was born here, grew up here,

279
00:11:41,068 --> 00:11:43,655
and when you grow up here,
you cannot go around it.

280
00:11:43,689 --> 00:11:46,275
It's 100% part of the life.

281
00:11:46,310 --> 00:11:48,517
And it was a big honor
to work for this club

282
00:11:48,551 --> 00:11:49,724
for such a long time

283
00:11:49,758 --> 00:11:51,965
as the youth coach
in Borussia Dortmund.

284
00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,310
And the job
was to develop players

285
00:11:55,344 --> 00:11:57,344
that can make it from Germany,

286
00:11:57,379 --> 00:11:59,551
but even one of the USA.

287
00:12:01,206 --> 00:12:03,448
Hannes Wolf was,
I believe,

288
00:12:03,482 --> 00:12:06,724
one of the major reasons
Christian succeeded at Dortmund

289
00:12:06,758 --> 00:12:11,034
and was given an opportunity
to become a professional player.

290
00:12:11,068 --> 00:12:13,655
He was that important
to Christian.

291
00:12:13,689 --> 00:12:15,517
I think it was
important that Christian

292
00:12:15,551 --> 00:12:17,931
and his family knew
that we really wanted him.

293
00:12:17,965 --> 00:12:20,827
It was my job to give
everybody full attention.

294
00:12:20,862 --> 00:12:23,586
But it's clear when you leave
your country and your continent

295
00:12:23,620 --> 00:12:26,206
with 15 years and you don't
understand the language,

296
00:12:26,241 --> 00:12:28,034
then it's completely clear

297
00:12:28,068 --> 00:12:29,758
that you have
to take care about him.

298
00:12:29,793 --> 00:12:31,965
And it was a very,
very special connection

299
00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,793
from the very beginning.

300
00:12:33,827 --> 00:12:35,896
Maybe other coaches
would've said,

301
00:12:35,931 --> 00:12:37,896
"Hey, Christian,
sink or swim,"

302
00:12:37,931 --> 00:12:40,137
um, but Hannes didn't do that.

303
00:12:40,172 --> 00:12:42,931
They knew that we really
wanted the best for him

304
00:12:42,965 --> 00:12:45,482
in every moment,
and not only for the team

305
00:12:45,517 --> 00:12:47,241
and not only
for winning the next game.

306
00:12:47,275 --> 00:12:49,724
It was always
to develop a player

307
00:12:49,758 --> 00:12:51,896
who could make it to the top.

308
00:12:51,931 --> 00:12:55,068
He knew Christian's
personality and mentality,

309
00:12:55,103 --> 00:12:56,931
that he was very hard
on himself.

310
00:12:56,965 --> 00:12:59,620
Hannes recognized that
right away.

311
00:12:59,655 --> 00:13:01,206
He was very ambitious.

312
00:13:01,241 --> 00:13:02,827
And when you're ambitious

313
00:13:02,862 --> 00:13:04,413
and something doesn't work
like you want

314
00:13:04,448 --> 00:13:06,448
because you don't score a goal
or you miss a goal

315
00:13:06,482 --> 00:13:09,689
or something happens,
then it hurts.

316
00:13:09,724 --> 00:13:11,344
With other players,
it's completely different.

317
00:13:11,379 --> 00:13:14,000
You have to push them and bring
them into the intensity.

318
00:13:14,034 --> 00:13:15,965
With Christian,
I felt a difference.

319
00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,034
It was really about
taking the pressure out,

320
00:13:18,068 --> 00:13:21,275
because wanting it
was deeply inside of him.

321
00:13:32,482 --> 00:13:35,413
Hannes pushed
and would constantly speak

322
00:13:35,448 --> 00:13:37,793
with Juürgen Klopp
about Christian.

323
00:13:37,827 --> 00:13:39,724
I told Juürgen on the pitch,

324
00:13:39,758 --> 00:13:42,034
"I have a player, he will play
on his 17th birthday."

325
00:13:42,068 --> 00:13:43,551
"He will play with you."

326
00:13:43,586 --> 00:13:45,551
And they were laughing
a little bit because

327
00:13:45,586 --> 00:13:47,793
they didn't know
about him too much.

328
00:13:47,827 --> 00:13:49,206
And it's not easy to play

329
00:13:49,241 --> 00:13:50,758
in Borussia Dortmund
when you're 17, so that was--

330
00:13:52,034 --> 00:13:53,689
That was brave from me.

331
00:13:53,724 --> 00:13:56,206
You know, to me,

332
00:13:56,241 --> 00:13:58,413
that's a coach or a mentor,

333
00:13:58,448 --> 00:14:00,517
really believing in a player.

334
00:14:00,551 --> 00:14:03,586
I remember being in art class
and looking at my phone

335
00:14:03,620 --> 00:14:05,517
and I got a text
from Hannes and he said,

336
00:14:05,551 --> 00:14:08,206
"Hey, tonight you're training
with the first team."

337
00:14:08,241 --> 00:14:10,586
We had him in training
and I described him once.

338
00:14:10,620 --> 00:14:13,000
It was like in a comic.

339
00:14:13,034 --> 00:14:14,896
So when all these people
run together

340
00:14:14,931 --> 00:14:16,655
and there's dust
and stuff like this,

341
00:14:16,689 --> 00:14:18,448
we all have probably
the picture in our mind,

342
00:14:18,482 --> 00:14:20,620
and in the end, one gets out

343
00:14:20,655 --> 00:14:23,275
and looks completely untouched.

344
00:14:23,310 --> 00:14:26,034
In this case,
with a ball on his feet.

345
00:14:26,068 --> 00:14:27,517
That was Christian.

346
00:14:27,551 --> 00:14:29,724
I remember going in
training with the first team

347
00:14:29,758 --> 00:14:32,103
for the first time
and speaking to Juürgen

348
00:14:32,137 --> 00:14:36,034
and I mean, the way
this guy treated me was--

349
00:14:36,068 --> 00:14:37,103
I couldn't believe it.

350
00:14:37,137 --> 00:14:39,379
The way he shook my hand
and said hello

351
00:14:39,413 --> 00:14:42,482
and felt like he knew exactly
who I was, where I was from.

352
00:14:42,517 --> 00:14:45,620
To me, that was
a pretty incredible sign

353
00:14:45,655 --> 00:14:47,482
and something that you
don't even see a lot.

354
00:14:50,517 --> 00:14:52,137
I just like the story,

355
00:14:52,172 --> 00:14:55,103
this kind of Yugoslavian
background

356
00:14:55,137 --> 00:14:57,068
with a good attitude
for the sport,

357
00:14:57,103 --> 00:14:58,655
and that's the boy I saw.

358
00:14:58,689 --> 00:15:00,482
But when you are
manager of a team,

359
00:15:00,517 --> 00:15:03,137
it's not that you have
long, long, long conversations

360
00:15:03,172 --> 00:15:05,103
with players
they don't play yet.

361
00:15:05,137 --> 00:15:07,103
They come to training,
you look at that.

362
00:15:07,137 --> 00:15:10,793
Um, and then I left
pretty quickly.

363
00:15:12,724 --> 00:15:15,379
<i>Juürgen Klopp
does take his final bow</i>

364
00:15:15,413 --> 00:15:17,275
<i>at the Signal Iduna Park.</i>

365
00:15:17,310 --> 00:15:18,965
<i>80,000-worth.</i>

366
00:15:20,551 --> 00:15:21,965
Coaches are important.

367
00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,172
Because they give opportunities.

368
00:15:24,206 --> 00:15:27,620
They are the gatekeepers in many
ways to success of that club.

369
00:15:27,655 --> 00:15:30,275
And when you're 16,
you love the fact

370
00:15:30,310 --> 00:15:32,724
that Juürgen Klopp
is the club's manager.

371
00:15:32,758 --> 00:15:34,724
But if you're honest
with yourself,

372
00:15:34,758 --> 00:15:37,379
the most important
part of the decision is

373
00:15:37,413 --> 00:15:39,724
what does this club stand for?

374
00:15:39,758 --> 00:15:43,068
I think that Germany is...

375
00:15:43,103 --> 00:15:46,448
is really exceptional
in the way they evaluate talent

376
00:15:46,482 --> 00:15:49,172
and they give talent
playing time

377
00:15:49,206 --> 00:15:50,689
very early in your career,

378
00:15:50,724 --> 00:15:52,655
if you have the qualities

379
00:15:52,689 --> 00:15:54,827
that you prove
on the training ground.

380
00:15:54,862 --> 00:15:56,862
And if you do that through
our training sessions

381
00:15:56,896 --> 00:15:58,103
week in, week out,

382
00:15:58,137 --> 00:16:01,344
we have the approach
in Germany that we say,

383
00:16:01,379 --> 00:16:03,241
"You know what, let's throw
him in the cold water

384
00:16:03,275 --> 00:16:04,896
and let him swim."

385
00:16:04,931 --> 00:16:07,896
So he starts in the youth
academies at Dortmund

386
00:16:07,931 --> 00:16:10,034
and I guess he immediately
turns heads there.

387
00:16:10,068 --> 00:16:12,034
And then at some point
Dortmund is ready

388
00:16:12,068 --> 00:16:14,034
to bring Christian Pulisic
into their games.

389
00:16:14,068 --> 00:16:16,275
But there is one
major problem with that.

390
00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:18,310
FIFA's Article 19.

391
00:16:18,344 --> 00:16:21,482
The challenge was
that he came at 15-years old.

392
00:16:21,517 --> 00:16:23,344
When you're from
European Union,

393
00:16:23,379 --> 00:16:25,103
you are able to play at 16,

394
00:16:25,137 --> 00:16:26,482
but when you're from America,

395
00:16:26,517 --> 00:16:28,172
you can only play
at 18-years old.

396
00:16:28,206 --> 00:16:30,551
So when Christian talks
about it was hard,

397
00:16:30,586 --> 00:16:31,620
that's a part of it.

398
00:16:31,655 --> 00:16:32,793
You come to another country,

399
00:16:32,827 --> 00:16:34,344
to another continent to play
football,

400
00:16:34,379 --> 00:16:36,241
to make it,
and then you cannot play.

401
00:16:36,275 --> 00:16:38,793
You're healthy, you don't have
an injury, but you cannot play.

402
00:16:40,137 --> 00:16:42,517
Christian
was only able to train

403
00:16:42,551 --> 00:16:45,068
with the U-17 team
at Dortmund.

404
00:16:45,103 --> 00:16:46,551
Good touch.

405
00:16:46,586 --> 00:16:48,275
When he went there,
he was not permitted

406
00:16:48,310 --> 00:16:50,655
to play games,
even with the youth team.

407
00:16:50,689 --> 00:16:52,310
Oh!

408
00:16:52,344 --> 00:16:54,000
On the day when we played,

409
00:16:54,034 --> 00:16:56,482
we organized the training
with Mark and the Footbonaut.

410
00:16:56,517 --> 00:16:58,068
The Footbonaut is a machine
where you can train

411
00:16:58,103 --> 00:16:59,413
with your first touch.

412
00:16:59,448 --> 00:17:02,068
And I think Christian played
400 to 500 touches

413
00:17:02,103 --> 00:17:03,517
on a matchday with Mark.

414
00:17:03,551 --> 00:17:05,172
But that was tough for him

415
00:17:05,206 --> 00:17:06,551
and we felt the responsibility

416
00:17:06,586 --> 00:17:08,965
to make something good
out of it, all the time.

417
00:17:11,379 --> 00:17:13,034
It's a FIFA rule that,

418
00:17:13,068 --> 00:17:17,448
honestly, is so detrimental

419
00:17:17,482 --> 00:17:20,551
to the development
of a young footballer

420
00:17:20,586 --> 00:17:22,275
that it's just--

421
00:17:22,310 --> 00:17:25,517
It's actually criminal that
that rule is allowed to exist,

422
00:17:25,551 --> 00:17:28,724
because I don't think in any
other sport that rule exists.

423
00:17:28,758 --> 00:17:31,000
I can only imagine, you know,

424
00:17:31,034 --> 00:17:33,931
the stress from his family
and the parents

425
00:17:33,965 --> 00:17:36,000
to try and make this happen
because

426
00:17:36,034 --> 00:17:37,758
it's such an incredible
opportunity.

427
00:17:37,793 --> 00:17:40,275
But this is 2014,
and it just so happens

428
00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:43,206
that a year earlier,
the country of Croatia

429
00:17:43,241 --> 00:17:45,241
was accepted
into the European Union.

430
00:17:45,275 --> 00:17:46,655
Now, why does that matter?

431
00:17:46,689 --> 00:17:48,862
It matters because
Christian's grandfather

432
00:17:48,896 --> 00:17:51,344
on his father's side,
Matej Pulisic,

433
00:17:51,379 --> 00:17:55,413
was born and raised on the tiny
island of Olib in Croatia.

434
00:17:55,448 --> 00:17:57,689
And because he is a citizen
of that country,

435
00:17:57,724 --> 00:17:59,413
that also means that Christian

436
00:17:59,448 --> 00:18:02,241
is eligible
for Croatian citizenship.

437
00:18:02,275 --> 00:18:04,620
So now suddenly
everybody gets creative

438
00:18:04,655 --> 00:18:06,103
because there's a loophole.

439
00:18:07,896 --> 00:18:11,103
My whole life, I've been
Christian "Pool-ih-sick."

440
00:18:11,137 --> 00:18:13,068
That's, I guess,
the American pronunciation.

441
00:18:13,103 --> 00:18:15,482
It is a Croatian
last name, of course.

442
00:18:15,517 --> 00:18:17,655
So my grandfather
would never be mad

443
00:18:17,689 --> 00:18:20,034
if anyone calls me
Christian "Pool-ih-sitch."

444
00:18:21,655 --> 00:18:24,034
My mom and dad
passed away a few years ago,

445
00:18:24,068 --> 00:18:26,172
and I know the pride
that they both had.

446
00:18:26,206 --> 00:18:27,413
I mean, my dad just--

447
00:18:27,448 --> 00:18:30,172
He was just a huge, huge fan.

448
00:18:30,206 --> 00:18:31,655
He loved Christian so much.

449
00:18:31,689 --> 00:18:33,034
And when he used
to see his name

450
00:18:33,068 --> 00:18:34,689
on the back
of Christian's jersey

451
00:18:34,724 --> 00:18:36,034
when he was playing in Germany,

452
00:18:36,068 --> 00:18:37,241
there would be tears
in his eyes.

453
00:18:37,275 --> 00:18:38,896
And I just knew
what it meant to him.

454
00:18:38,931 --> 00:18:41,034
And I know what it means
to me when I see his name.

455
00:18:43,275 --> 00:18:45,172
Christian was in a situation

456
00:18:45,206 --> 00:18:46,724
where he needs
a European passport,

457
00:18:46,758 --> 00:18:49,931
and he can qualify for one
through his grandfather.

458
00:18:49,965 --> 00:18:52,758
The application
was in the system,

459
00:18:52,793 --> 00:18:55,586
but you need to get it
over the line, right?

460
00:18:55,620 --> 00:18:57,793
And that's where Dortmund
came into the picture.

461
00:18:57,827 --> 00:19:00,758
I know that Christian
and his family know that

462
00:19:00,793 --> 00:19:03,551
this one and a half,
two years playing with the youth

463
00:19:03,586 --> 00:19:05,551
were very important
for his development.

464
00:19:05,586 --> 00:19:08,275
And we knew that we have
a very special kids with us

465
00:19:08,310 --> 00:19:09,448
who cannot play.

466
00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:11,724
So everyone
we can call, we called.

467
00:19:13,310 --> 00:19:16,241
Dortmund knew my father
was born and raised in Croatia,

468
00:19:16,275 --> 00:19:20,000
and the club obviously
had some contacts in Croatia.

469
00:19:20,034 --> 00:19:23,758
So we were able
to utilize our name

470
00:19:23,793 --> 00:19:28,000
and his address in Croatia
to start the paperwork process.

471
00:19:28,034 --> 00:19:30,103
And it was gonna take
a long time.

472
00:19:30,137 --> 00:19:32,448
But look, at the end of the day,

473
00:19:32,482 --> 00:19:35,758
in this world,
anything can get done, right?

474
00:19:38,275 --> 00:19:40,344
You know, it's crazy
that you have to figure out

475
00:19:40,379 --> 00:19:42,413
these loopholes
to get EU citizenship,

476
00:19:42,448 --> 00:19:46,103
to go to an academy
if you have the talent to do so.

477
00:19:46,137 --> 00:19:47,620
From, from an American
standpoint,

478
00:19:47,655 --> 00:19:49,206
it's a massive disadvantage.

479
00:19:49,241 --> 00:19:51,103
If he didn't go
to Dortmund at 16

480
00:19:51,137 --> 00:19:53,068
and he went to an MLS academy

481
00:19:53,103 --> 00:19:54,689
or he was with an MLS team,

482
00:19:54,724 --> 00:19:57,000
I don't think we would be
seeing the Christian Pulisic

483
00:19:57,034 --> 00:19:59,137
that we see today on the pitch.

484
00:19:59,172 --> 00:20:00,758
Getting the Croatian passport,

485
00:20:00,793 --> 00:20:02,172
that was the game changer.

486
00:20:02,206 --> 00:20:03,827
I wouldn't have had a chance

487
00:20:03,862 --> 00:20:05,896
to have been a part of
the Dortmund first team

488
00:20:05,931 --> 00:20:08,172
until I was 18,
if I didn't have that passport.

489
00:20:08,206 --> 00:20:09,931
So there's no way
I would have been able

490
00:20:09,965 --> 00:20:11,482
to be playing in Europe
and I'd have been,

491
00:20:11,517 --> 00:20:13,482
you know, two,
three years behind.

492
00:20:13,517 --> 00:20:15,482
Who knows if I would
have even developed

493
00:20:15,517 --> 00:20:16,724
or had a chance by then.

494
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,620
<i>Coming on here for his debut</i>

495
00:20:20,655 --> 00:20:23,206
<i>is the young American,
Christian Pulisic.</i>

496
00:20:24,620 --> 00:20:27,586
I wanted to believe
that there was something special

497
00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:30,655
on the other side of
that extremely difficult year.

498
00:20:30,689 --> 00:20:32,344
I told myself every day that

499
00:20:32,379 --> 00:20:34,965
this is--
this is all gonna be worth it.

500
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,758
You know, I think
that that first year,

501
00:20:37,793 --> 00:20:39,517
it doesn't change
how I look back on it.

502
00:20:39,551 --> 00:20:41,758
I still hated
waking up every day

503
00:20:41,793 --> 00:20:43,931
and having to go to that school

504
00:20:43,965 --> 00:20:46,862
and having to go do the lessons
and train and not playing.

505
00:20:46,896 --> 00:20:49,517
It was--
It was extremely hard.

506
00:20:49,551 --> 00:20:52,000
But I mean, looking back on it,

507
00:20:52,034 --> 00:20:54,034
I'm just so blessed
that I went through that

508
00:20:54,068 --> 00:20:55,413
and that I stuck it out.

509
00:20:56,517 --> 00:20:59,482
As a kid, I always learned
that if you want to be the best,

510
00:20:59,517 --> 00:21:01,000
you have to play
against the best.

511
00:21:02,137 --> 00:21:04,310
And I think that
this is where it's at,

512
00:21:04,344 --> 00:21:05,862
here in Europe right now.

513
00:21:05,896 --> 00:21:07,137
And this is one of the best
leagues in the world

514
00:21:07,172 --> 00:21:08,551
and one of the best teams.

515
00:21:08,586 --> 00:21:10,827
So it's just an honor
to play here.

516
00:21:10,862 --> 00:21:11,827
And it's always been my dream.

517
00:21:31,689 --> 00:21:34,724
Okay, so your son
goes to Europe.

518
00:21:34,758 --> 00:21:36,620
Professional debut at 17,

519
00:21:36,655 --> 00:21:40,827
scores a goal at 17
in front of 80,000 people.

520
00:21:40,862 --> 00:21:44,379
<i>Kagawa, Hummels,
nice link up-- Pulisic!</i>

521
00:21:44,413 --> 00:21:47,241
<i>Oh, yes, the youngster</i>

522
00:21:47,275 --> 00:21:49,827
<i>and a startling day
for the young American.</i>

523
00:21:50,724 --> 00:21:52,862
<i>A star is born.</i>

524
00:21:53,931 --> 00:21:55,413
Holy shit.

525
00:21:55,448 --> 00:21:57,862
Look at the crowd over there.

526
00:21:57,896 --> 00:22:00,655
Go make a debut
at 17 in front of that crowd,

527
00:22:00,689 --> 00:22:03,034
as demanding and
as passionate as that.

528
00:22:03,068 --> 00:22:04,793
I mean, can you imagine
the courage it takes?

529
00:22:04,827 --> 00:22:06,344
That's not just
about your ability,

530
00:22:06,379 --> 00:22:07,482
that's about your mentality.

531
00:22:07,517 --> 00:22:08,896
There's lots
of players with talent,

532
00:22:08,931 --> 00:22:10,482
but have you got
the mentality to play

533
00:22:10,517 --> 00:22:12,034
at the highest level
in front of the,

534
00:22:12,068 --> 00:22:13,482
you know,
the biggest atmospheres?

535
00:22:13,517 --> 00:22:15,275
And that for me,
is what football's about.

536
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,758
Yeah, a special moment.

537
00:22:30,793 --> 00:22:33,172
I'm extremely grateful
for the club

538
00:22:33,206 --> 00:22:35,517
and the way they put me
through those difficult things,

539
00:22:35,551 --> 00:22:39,000
you know, even when I didn't
see it at the time,

540
00:22:39,034 --> 00:22:42,655
because that's what shaped me
into the person I am today,

541
00:22:42,689 --> 00:22:43,827
into the player I am today.

542
00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:45,172
<i>There's Pulisic.</i>

543
00:22:45,206 --> 00:22:47,827
<i>He sent a cross--
A sensational goal!</i>

544
00:22:47,862 --> 00:22:50,034
<i>Ooh!</i>

545
00:22:50,068 --> 00:22:51,655
<i>Christian Pulisic!</i>

546
00:22:51,689 --> 00:22:54,275
<i>Almost can't believe it himsel.</i>

547
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:56,586
I mean, I obviously just
wouldn't be where I'm at

548
00:22:56,620 --> 00:22:58,931
if I didn't have that start
in those difficult times.

549
00:22:58,965 --> 00:23:00,724
<i>Pulisic, Pulisic...!</i>

550
00:23:02,965 --> 00:23:04,620
<i>Goal!</i>

551
00:23:06,344 --> 00:23:07,827
A football career is difficult,

552
00:23:07,862 --> 00:23:11,034
and it's massively influenced
by injuries and stuff like that.

553
00:23:13,896 --> 00:23:16,758
A great club
educated a great boy,

554
00:23:16,793 --> 00:23:19,551
so I knew he would make it.

555
00:23:20,655 --> 00:23:22,172
A young academy player

556
00:23:22,206 --> 00:23:24,655
making it as
a men's professional,

557
00:23:24,689 --> 00:23:26,241
the most difficult jump
in football.

558
00:23:27,931 --> 00:23:30,586
But he ended up with
unbelievable experiences

559
00:23:30,620 --> 00:23:32,931
of playing Champions League
football at a young age,

560
00:23:32,965 --> 00:23:36,068
playing in front of big
audiences every home game.

561
00:23:36,103 --> 00:23:38,172
Everything worked out so well.

562
00:23:39,586 --> 00:23:42,793
But there came a point
where both parties knew

563
00:23:42,827 --> 00:23:45,620
that he was probably ready
for the next step.

564
00:23:55,172 --> 00:23:57,137
I'm sad, man.
To be honest with you.

565
00:23:57,172 --> 00:23:59,241
I respect him a lot
for what he did, like--

566
00:23:59,275 --> 00:24:00,862
A tough day for me.

567
00:24:00,896 --> 00:24:03,103
The maturity
to be able to, you know,

568
00:24:03,137 --> 00:24:06,034
pursue something
as serious as that, and--

569
00:24:06,068 --> 00:24:08,379
Five years here, man,
it's incredible.

570
00:24:08,413 --> 00:24:11,172
Live out on your own, largely.

571
00:24:12,241 --> 00:24:13,448
It's pretty crazy.

572
00:24:21,586 --> 00:24:24,103
I think to say goodbye
in a proper way...

573
00:24:25,172 --> 00:24:27,896
is an important thing in life.

574
00:24:30,206 --> 00:24:32,758
It was my first club, and...

575
00:24:32,793 --> 00:24:34,689
the way they yell my name

576
00:24:34,724 --> 00:24:36,206
and the way they supported me,

577
00:24:37,517 --> 00:24:39,931
I'll obviously always have
a lot of love for them.

578
00:24:41,206 --> 00:24:43,034
They told me that
they'd be giving me

579
00:24:43,068 --> 00:24:44,896
a little bit
of a goodbye and, um--

580
00:24:44,931 --> 00:24:46,482
They said, "You know,
if you want,

581
00:24:46,517 --> 00:24:48,758
you can say a quick word
to the fans."

582
00:24:58,068 --> 00:24:59,793
And I said, "Absolutely."

583
00:24:59,827 --> 00:25:01,758
I mean, it's the least
I could do.

584
00:25:01,793 --> 00:25:03,275
Christian...

585
00:25:03,310 --> 00:25:04,689
Pulisic!

586
00:25:04,724 --> 00:25:06,103
Christian...

587
00:25:06,137 --> 00:25:07,517
Pulisic!

588
00:25:07,551 --> 00:25:08,827
Christian...

589
00:25:08,862 --> 00:25:10,655
Pulisic!

590
00:25:10,689 --> 00:25:12,620
Smart boy.

591
00:25:12,655 --> 00:25:14,172
Obviously, a confident boy.

592
00:25:14,206 --> 00:25:15,931
And it helps,

593
00:25:15,965 --> 00:25:18,034
if you want to speak in front
of the Yellow Wall.

594
00:25:18,068 --> 00:25:20,034
Confidence
is a good thing to have

595
00:25:20,068 --> 00:25:22,586
because it's quite intimidating
when you stand there

596
00:25:22,620 --> 00:25:23,931
and you look up to it.

597
00:25:23,965 --> 00:25:25,206
Can you imagine that?

598
00:25:25,241 --> 00:25:26,724
Your send off in front
of the Yellow Wall,

599
00:25:26,758 --> 00:25:29,931
one of the most iconic pieces
of terrace in European football.

600
00:25:29,965 --> 00:25:31,448
You're all alone,

601
00:25:31,482 --> 00:25:32,862
speaking in a foreign language,

602
00:25:32,896 --> 00:25:34,965
and see how emotional he was.

603
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,482
You could see the feeling
between player and fans.

604
00:25:37,517 --> 00:25:39,965
I mean, it was a touching
moment for everybody.

605
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,172
I mean,
you got to think about it.

606
00:25:41,206 --> 00:25:44,586
This is a young kid in front
of 83,000 people

607
00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:47,931
saying goodbye to a club
that this is the only thing

608
00:25:47,965 --> 00:25:50,344
he's known
for a number of years.

609
00:25:50,379 --> 00:25:52,655
I was actually pretty
nervous for that moment,

610
00:25:52,689 --> 00:25:53,965
for some reason, you know,

611
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,068
I can play in front
of 80, whatever, thousand,

612
00:25:56,103 --> 00:25:57,896
but for some reason, when
you get a mic in your hand

613
00:25:57,931 --> 00:26:00,275
and you have to speak,
it's a little bit different.

614
00:26:01,724 --> 00:26:03,965
But, yeah,
it was what I owed them.

615
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,241
Oh...

616
00:26:08,448 --> 00:26:12,379
But I did not expect
the wave of emotions to hit.

617
00:26:14,482 --> 00:26:18,344
I didn't expect how
I would feel in that moment.

618
00:26:23,413 --> 00:26:25,103
You know,
the respect from the fans,

619
00:26:25,137 --> 00:26:27,517
I think, as a player
is just so important.

620
00:26:32,068 --> 00:26:35,034
And then to be able
to address as a parent,

621
00:26:35,068 --> 00:26:38,206
to see your kid
address 80,000 people...

622
00:26:44,482 --> 00:26:45,620
Sorry.

623
00:26:56,137 --> 00:27:00,862
Yeah, he's speaking German,
and fluently, too,

624
00:27:00,896 --> 00:27:03,793
and thanking the crowd

625
00:27:03,827 --> 00:27:06,034
for what they've given him
to start his career.

626
00:27:06,068 --> 00:27:08,000
It's just--

627
00:27:22,620 --> 00:27:24,586
I couldn't have been more proud.

628
00:27:24,620 --> 00:27:25,896
I don't know--

629
00:27:29,275 --> 00:27:32,310
Yeah, it's one of the best
moments so far, I think. Yeah.

630
00:27:34,172 --> 00:27:35,172
Yeah.

631
00:27:36,172 --> 00:27:37,413
Sorry.

632
00:27:40,103 --> 00:27:42,965
♪ When you walk

633
00:27:44,344 --> 00:27:46,517
♪ Through a storm

634
00:27:47,758 --> 00:27:52,517
♪ Hold your hand up high

635
00:27:54,137 --> 00:27:58,655
♪ And don't be afraid

636
00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:02,137
♪ Of the dark

637
00:28:06,793 --> 00:28:11,068
♪ Walk on through the wind

638
00:28:13,551 --> 00:28:18,137
♪ Walk on through the rain

639
00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:24,068
♪ For your dreams be tossed

640
00:28:26,068 --> 00:28:30,000
♪ And blown

641
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:36,931
♪ Walk on, walk on

642
00:28:38,896 --> 00:28:44,724
♪ With hope in your heart

643
00:28:44,758 --> 00:28:48,068
♪ And you'll never

644
00:28:48,103 --> 00:28:50,896
♪ Walk alone

645
00:28:50,931 --> 00:28:55,862
♪ Alone

646
00:28:57,137 --> 00:29:02,413
♪ You'll never

647
00:29:02,448 --> 00:29:04,448
♪ Walk alone


